- A: Bayan da Kungiyar Kasashen Afrika ta kammala taron kolinta,
- kuma ta yi sabon shugaba, wato Muammar Gaddafi na kasar Libya,
- na tattamna da Dr. Isaac Laudarji,
- dan asalin kasar Nijeriya
- wanda ke nan Amurka da zama,
- mai lura da al’amuran duniya na yau da kullum.
- Na yi ma Dr. Isaac tambayar cewa,
- shin me ya sa ake ganin kamar Kungiyar Kasashen Afrika ba ta barkata komi
- game da tulin matsalolin da suka
- addabi nahiyar Afrika
- irin su yake-yake
- da cututtuka,
- yunwa,
- fatara,
- talauci
- da dai sauransu?
- B: Daya daga cikin dalilan da ya sa, uhm,
- Kungiyar Kasar Afrika ba ta yin wani abu shi ne,
- shuwagabannin su kansu,
- ba su yadda da matsayinsu ba,
- kowa na tsoron a’a in na fadi wani abu gameda wannan yau, gobe ni ma watakila ina neman haka. Amma inda sun sani cewa, ina tafiya bisa ga tsarin doka ta kasana, ban da wata marmari in muzgunawa kowa, ko in aikata wani abinda zai zama na son zuciya ko na sonkai, me zai hana shugaban Nijeriya ko shugaban, uhm, South Afrika ya ce ma shugaban Zimbabwe, “Kai! wulakancin da kake yi ma mutanenka ya isa haka, ka ba su wuri domin su cigaba, ai bai zama abin gado bane, in ka yi yaki na kwatar mulki bai nuna cewa ka samu wurin zaman gadon, gado har sai randa ka mutu ba. To kin ga inda za su fara fadin haka wa juna, domin sun sani cewa suna tsaye a kan gaskiya da zai taimaka. Amma mafi yawansu ba kan gaskiya suke tsaye ba, su ma su na tsoro in suka fada gobe su ma za a masu, za a musu haka, domin su ma suna kwadayin hakan. Don hakan ba taimaka mana ta ke yi ba.
- A: Akwai ma masu ganin Kungiyar ba ta ma da wani amfani yanzu haka.
- B: I! to ba zan ce Kungiyar ba ta da amfani ba, sai dai amfaninta kadan ne, domin ba ta taimakawa yadda ake, alal misali uhm, uhm, an so a yi wata taro a Uganda na sarakuna na kasashen, uhm, kasashe daban-daban a Afrika wanda Gaddafi yana jagora. Me Gadafi yake so yayi? Gaddafi yana so ya yi irin abinda Amerika ta ke ciki, Afrika gaba daya ta zama kamar kasa daya. Ya yi wannan kokari, ya yi kokarin wannan maganar da shuwagabannin kasashen Afrika daban-daban, ba su amince da hakan sosai ba. Yana so ya shigo ta wajen shuwa.. uhm, sarakuna na gargajiya ya ga ko zai more su. Na ji shugaban Uganda ya hana a yi taron domin ya ce shuwa, uhm, uhm, sarakunan gargajiya bai kamata su shiga siyasa irin haka ba. Ya dai ce ba za a yi taro a kasarsa ba. To, irin haka din, ba kokarin a nemi abinda zai gina uhm kasa gaba daya ko kuma, jihar Afrika gaba daya ba, kowa na neman abinda zai yi ne na son kansa, na jin dadin kansa. Shi ya sa ba su iya hada kai su yi abinda kowa zai zo ya ji, ya ji ya gani, domin tsoro kada in sake ni ma in zo in rasa, inaso in rike nawa, domin in an zo rabawa ma komi za a yi, ni dai akwai nawa a ciki. To, idan tafiya ta ci gaba da haka ban ga kaman zuwa gaba ita kungiya ta Afrikan za ta zama da wata amfani kwarai ba, sai dai ya zama inda za su je su yi ta haduwa suna kukkula, suna shisshiyar abubuwan da ke na son zuciyarsu, amma duk wani abinda zai kawo gina kasa ko kuma uhm Afrika gaba daya, ban ga kamar zai fito kuma ba.
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- A: Now that the African Union has concluded its summit meeting
- and chosen Muammar Gaddafi of Libya as its new chairman,
- I spoke with Dr. Isaac Laudarji,
- a Nigerian
- living here in the United States
- and an observer of current global affairs.
- I asked Dr. Laudarji
- why it appears that the African Union has done absolutely nothing
- about the numerous problems that are
- afflicting the continent,
- such as war,
- disease,
- hunger,
- a lack of resources,
- poverty,
- and others.
- B: One of the reasons why, um,
- the African Union has done nothing is that
- the leaders themselves
- do not agree on their role,
- and everyone is afraid that if they say something about this today, tomorrow they may find themselves on the receiving end. But, when they know that they are moving forward according to their country’s constitution, without trying to lead everyone astray or acting out of self-interest or selfishness, what will prevent the president of Nigeria or the president of, um, South Africa from saying to the president of Zimbabwe, “Hey! Enough with the harsh treatment that you are imposing on your people; you must give them room to develop. It is not your birthright, and, even if you are a patriot who fought for independence, that doesn't give you the right to occupy the seat of power for the rest of your life”? Well, you see, if they were to start talking to each other like that, knowing that they are standing up for the truth, this would help. But the majority of them don’t stand up for the truth, and they’re afraid that if they speak up, the same thing will be used against them in the future, since they also crave power. And so this doesn't help us.
- A: And there are those who believe that now the organization has no purpose.
- B: Indeed! Well, I wouldn’t say that the organization has no purpose, but its purpose is limited because it isn’t helping to, for example-um-um-there was a proposal to hold a conference in Uganda of traditional leaders from countries-um-different countries in Africa, which Gaddafi would be leading. What does Gaddafi want to do? Gaddafi wants to do something like what the United States has done, with the whole of Africa becoming a single country. He tried to get the leaders of different African countries interested in this idea, but they didn’t really accept it. He wanted to involve lead-um-traditional leaders to see if he could make use of them. I heard that the president of Uganda prevented this conference from taking place because he said that the lead-um-um-traditional leaders shouldn’t be involved in politics of this sort. He said the conference wouldn’t be held in his country. So, this kind of thing, it’s not an attempt to find a way to build-um-a whole country or a whole African state; everyone is just looking to do something that will serve their own selfishness, their own satisfaction. This is why they can’t cooperate and do what everyone wants to hear, something that everyone can see and hear, because of a fear that they might fail the next time around. They want to hold their own, so when it comes time to divide everything up, there will be something in it for them. So, if that’s the road ahead, I don't see the African Union being very effective going forward, and it will just be about them continuing to meet and focus on devising things out of self-interest. But as for anything that might bring about the creation of a country or-um-a unified Africa, I don’t see how this will happen.
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